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I do worry I made Elias a bit too soft in that fic. but also the point was him conceding, more out of exhaustion than anything else. was he too soft?

the problem with writing jonelias is that you need to have both Jon and Elias conceding. taking a step in the other's direction. recognising any feelings that may exist and then doing something about it. and while the former is more possible, the latter is... challenging. neither of them are exactly warm or inviting people, they would rather keep their distance. they have different reasons, of course. Jonah has his own goals, his apocalypse to worry about, he can't get too close to Jon, partially out of fear of losing the perfect lynchpin for the apocalypse. and Jon would at first worry about Elias being his boss and then about him being evil

this is what appeals to me. I like that they don't ever choose each other yet there is something there. they are connected both through their own actions and the forces surrounding them. it changes nothing. I love all of it. I really do. it does, however, make writing fic a bit challenging. what do I even write about that is both interesting yet in character?

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it really is difficult, sometimes especially when i just want to write an established relationship oneshot. because i feel like i have to explain or at least figure out how they even got together. and what the status quo is (mostly, how much does jon know? has elias given up on his plan, or has it changed? etc etc)

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right? the fic I am talking about has them kind of in an established relationship (as in they spent the night in the same place before and one time shared a bed). I spent the whole time stressing if Elias was too soft, too permissive. even if the premise kind of requires him to concede (and for Jon to look the gift horse in the mouth lol)

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@kairos-polaris i'll have to read it 👀 but honestly I love soft elias so I tend to veer in that direction anyway, even if it's not always the most accurate. it it comes down to writing something indulgent vs languishing forever without writing anything i'd rather be indulgent. i like the idea of elias getting attached to jon once he realizes that with the apocalypse they can be immortal together, and then struggling with having to put jon in harm's way to actually accomplish that

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@archiverot the fic is my hollow holofernes if you are interested, same user name as here. I am always so worried about being canon compliant it really does keep me from writing 😭